Digital Nomad Lifestyle in Norway at the Arctic Coworking Lodge

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Kristin:    00:02:19    Welcome to an episode of Badass Digital Nomads, recorded from Norway. I'm just hanging out at the Arctic Coworking Lodge with Stian and Rolf, and this is where we live, or this is where I'm living for a month. This is where you guys always live. We're in a beautiful scenic area and we are in Lofoten, of course, Norway, in front of, what is this fjord called?

Podcast Interview:  

Stian:    00:02:44    Uh, it's called, uh, the Stone Fjord because, uh, in the middle of the or there's a big rock or stone that separates or makes this fjord into two shorts.  

Kristin:    00:02:54    That's why they call it that. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:02:56    And this, so it's actually this big, uh, rock or more like a, you know, smallish mountain  

Kristin:    00:03:01    <laugh>.  

Stian:    00:03:02    And it took me one year to figure out that out, why they call it the Stoneshore?  

Kristin:    00:03:06    I heard this Fjord is 3 billion years old, or like all the mountains here are 3 billion years old. Is that true?  

Rolf:    00:03:12    Probably since the last ice age. Yeah. Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:03:14    So welcome to the show guys, and thanks for letting everybody sleep at your house here. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:03:19    Thanks. Yeah,  

Rolf:    00:03:20    Of course.  

Kristin:    00:03:21    So let's start off with just like a little bit about your background.  

Rolf:    00:03:25    So my name is Rolf. I'm, uh, 25 years old. Um, moved up to Lofoten two years ago. Uh, originally, uh, me and Stian, we went to school together, went to, uh, university together in a city called Osen, which is kind of like the miniature version of this place. Uh, it's just really, really cool with a lot of mountains and oceans and stuff. When we came up here for the first time, we were like amazed because it's so nice to be able to live here and just kind of live in this natural beautiful part of the world.  

Stian:    00:03:57    Stian just turned 27 and, uh, pretty much have the same story as Roth. Yeah, <laugh>,  

Kristin:    00:04:04    <laugh> just like came up here. Did you come up here to go surfing the first time or why did, what brought you up here? Or you're just Norwegian? So is it like a rite of passage to come up here?  

Stian:    00:04:14    Not really, but I think, uh, just came up here on, on a surf trip and we're used to like kind of average waves, uh, where we used to live and we came up here and, and the waves were like very good. So, uh, yeah, we just decided to move  

Kristin:    00:04:30    Up. So for people who aren't aware of this area, because I didn't know about it actually until I came to Norway in 2015 and I was looking at the map and looking at where to go, and I ended up in like the southern part around Oslo and Bergen. And then when I found out that this area existed, I want it to come up, but it kind of takes, it's like a mission to get up here, but in a good way.  

Stian:    00:04:56    Yeah, it's a bit of a, it's a bit of an adventure or you know, there's several ways, ways to come up. You can get up here very quickly if you just, you know, take the plane, uh, directly, which is, you know, sort of expensive. But yeah, if you don't, if you don't choose that way, you can get into some, uh, you know, some ferries, some train rides, some bus rides, <laugh>,  

Rolf:    00:05:17    Because that's what you did, right? You took train. Yeah,  

Kristin:    00:05:20    So I didn't come here like five years ago because we realized we had to fly and I think the tickets were like $400 or something. So yeah, we just took the train from Oslo to Bergen and then left out of Oslo again. But yeah, when I was coming back looking at how to get here, just to give people some perspective as to where we are. So to get here you can take a 24 hour train from Oslo, <laugh> that goes into Sweden, and then all the way up. Or you can fly to another part of Norway, either to Bodo or Trondhime or Tromso or Lekness. Well, you can fly to like one of the bigger cities and you can explore around there. And then you can take like a 10 hour train and then a ferry and then a bus, and then hitchhike and then run a car or whatever.  

Kristin:    00:06:07    And you can get here or you can just fly directly to this small town called Lekness, which is like 20 minutes away. And that is the most direct way. But it's, it's definitely an adventure. Like if you think about a 24 hour train, like I've never been on a train longer than six hours or something like that. So that's just in one country. So that's pretty, yeah, pretty far north. And even though we're up this far, it's not that cold just wearing like jeans and you guys have like t-shirts and flannels on, but why isn't it super cold up here? Somebody was telling me it's because of the,  

Stian:    00:06:41    Yeah, there's like a, there's a, the Gulf Stream. The Gulf Stream and which brings, uh, you know, heat, you know, with the ocean and that stream pretty much hits that stream with warm water. Pretty much. It's like right outside here. So the ocean actually warms up the air, which makes it not, not nice and toasted, but, uh, <laugh>, you know, not really cold. Yeah,  

Rolf:    00:07:03    Yeah. Just imagine going up this far north in the US Yeah. Or in Canada. Yeah, yeah, Alaska, Canada. That's really cold here round, so really hot as well. But  

Kristin:    00:07:13    Yeah, we're kind of at like the same latitude as Iceland. Is it latitude that goes  

Rolf:    00:07:19    A little bit further north? Yeah, a little  

Kristin:    00:07:20    Further north of Iceland. And why do people like coming here?  

Stian:    00:07:25    Well, you know, people has been coming here for, uh, you know, uh,  

Kristin:    00:07:29    11,000 years <laugh>.  

Stian:    00:07:31    Yeah, it's weird to think about that people came here <laugh> 11,000 years ago, like, what'd you guys do up here? But, uh, yeah, I think it started off with very good fishing opportunities. Like people get a lot of fish here and that's what has been happening the last at least a hundred years. And now it's more getting more of a trend maybe.  

Rolf:    00:07:48    Yeah. It's more like, uh, people come here for experience, so it's either if you want to experience the midnight sun or the normal lights or just see the mountains there if you wanna go surfing or climbing or, there's a lot of different reasons to come here. Uh, but I think the common thing for like, for people who are travelers who come here is that it's just so beautiful. I've traveled a lot, I've never been somewhere as beautiful as air.  

Kristin:    00:08:14    Yeah. And I haven't even done any of the hikes yet. You can hike up the mountains or up the fjords and get these panoramic views and the waters like all blue and it just looks so pretty. I've only been here for a week, but I gotta get out there. I've mostly been surfing and working <laugh>, so,  

Stian:    00:08:31    Which is not too bad.  

Kristin:    00:08:33    That's cool though when you think about it because people came here 11,000 years ago, 7,000 years ago, since way before the Vikings for all different reasons. And now this many thousands of years later, digital nomads are coming here to like work and enjoy the nature. And then you also have just regular people on vacation or adventurers just hanging out and exploring. Like I picked up a bunch of French hikers the other day that were hitchhiking and they were just camping, just like 23 years old, living their lives  

Stian:    00:09:06    Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:09:07    Exploring up here. And it's just kind of that, that kind of scene. There's,  

Stian:    00:09:11    And it's crazy to see like there's people that comes here for like a week or four days to camp out and 10, and you see that all year round. Then there's more and more people like us that actually moves up here. Uh, so there's, you know,  

Rolf:    00:09:25    Then you have the digital nomad types who comes for states for a longer amount of time. Yeah. Like you're saying for a month that's like perfect timing to kind of see it all and get it all,  

Stian:    00:09:35    Get into the community and  

Rolf:    00:09:36    Yeah. That's what we're all about. We're all about like opening our community to the digital nomad as well.  

Kristin:    00:09:42    Yeah. And there's only, what, a few thousand people living here year round you'd say?  

Rolf:    00:09:47    Yeah, there's, on this island it's 11,000. Oh yeah. It quite a big island. And  

Kristin:    00:09:52    This whole island chain is something like how many kilometers long?  

Stian:    00:09:56    I don't know. But it's, I'd say like from tip to tip <laugh>, four hours, something, four hours drive, three to four hour drive from tip to  

Kristin:    00:10:03    Tip. And there's a lot to explore like within this area. I mean, just a few minutes down the road we have the Unad surf spot. Yeah. And then within like a one or two hour radius, there's how many other spots? <laugh>?  

Stian:    00:10:16    Yeah. Well the only problem with that is just that Unad is just, uh, you know, so good <laugh>. Yeah. That uh, even we haven't had the time to explore enough around, 'cause Unad is just really  

Rolf:    00:10:28    Just in general, you know, like even though we don't think about surfing, like just to go explore all the beaches here. Yeah. And there's some of the beaches to the south that is kind of a mission to get to. You have to hike for an hour or something like that. Mm-Hmm. But then when you get there and you see it, it's just an abandoned beach. You know, like how often do you see at a perfect white sandy beach with like no houses, no people, nothing. Yeah. Yeah. It's really cool.  

Kristin:    00:10:52    It's surreal. Like this, this place is like everything I thought it would be. So I guess I should tell you guys how I found out about this place. So, well, I, I heard about it when I came to Norway. I heard about Luin, like the area, and then I was like putting it on my bucket list, like I have to go back there. And then a few years later I started creating content about remote work and traveling and digital nomad lifestyle. And you guys saw one of my articles on co-Living and reached out. And then I was like, what, what is this <laugh> Coworking? And I looked at your profile, I don't even think you had opened yet. And I was like, I need to go there. Like, they're making a co-living spot there of all places. Like that's awesome. So, but like a year and a half ago, I think that was that, that we first connected and then now here I am. But tell me a little bit about the Arctic Digital Nomads, because I just wrote an article about why people are coming up to the Arctic to live and work and hang out. But there's also, you guys have friends that are in Iceland, Greenland, and other places in the Arctic that want to spread the word about why it's a good place to go and hang out. And that there's infrastructure there, there's community there, and there's a good work life balance. So what is this Arctic Digital Nomads about?  

Rolf:    00:12:29    Yeah. Um, so it's a collaboration project, uh, with like you said, Greenland, Iceland and the Farrows, uh, where they each, in each of these places, uh, in quite remote areas actually, they've opened the coworking slash co-living space. And the reason they're doing this is because they're struggling to get like their own people, their own people. Like go to school somewhere else in, for example, Oslo or Reykjavík or something like that. And then they can't move back 'cause there isn't any jobs available. And same thing here, uh, like if you, you, it's very hard to get a high skilled job if you have the education for that. But digital nomads are kind of showing the world that it's possible to just be wherever you want, as long as you have wifi connection and Yeah. And now we kind of want to show everyone that it's possible to work from these remote very beautiful, uh, scenic places, uh, without sacrificing that much.  

Kristin:    00:13:26    Yeah. And that's, that's also, you make a good point about the people, like the locals who are living there and, and want jobs as well. Mm-Hmm. So before these kinds of communities were, well, they're very rural, so they had fishing and maybe some other industries, but bringing awareness to these kinds of places, it's good for digital nomads from other countries to know that they can come to a healthy place and, and live a healthy lifestyle and have fun and meet people and, and get their work done. But also it's a sign of things to come when rural communities with educated populations get to have remote jobs themselves. So I think you guys were saying the other day at dinner that you had a friend who got a, a good job. Like he was working at a, a fishing place.  

Rolf:    00:14:22    Yeah, yeah. A fish factory. Yeah, a fish factory. So he wanted to live there. So, but for the last, and he has a good education and whatnot, but like for the last few years he has been working at the fish factory. So he is been using two years of his life just finding that job that he can kind of use his skills. Now  

Stian:    00:14:38    Finally, he's got like a job. Yeah. For like a company that kind of lets him work with, um, the things that, you know, he's educated within. So <laugh>, it's a weird way of saying it, but Yeah. And they're gonna let him, like after he is done, he's gonna, he's gonna be able to work remotely. 'cause it's kind of still a bit far away from where he lives now. So, but yeah, he, he's gonna work remotely with, or partly remotely with what he likes to do. Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:15:05    That's so great because before the options were so limited, right. People could work for, um, <laugh>  

Stian:    00:15:12    Books and my, there's smoke coming in there. <laugh>, <laugh>. I'm not sure  

Kristin:    00:15:19    People could had unlimited options. They could work at the fish factory, they could maybe work at a cafe, they could maybe eat fish.  

Stian:    00:15:26    And even like, that's so seasonal. You know, cafes is in the summer, uh, and fishing almost like three month a year. And it's so hard to get into the whole fishing thing. And it is such hard work, <laugh>  

Rolf:    00:15:38    And what happens to these communities when there's no like, relevant work for a young generation. That's the whole, their whole popular population grows older and Yeah. They're not able to create value for their own community anymore. So,  

Kristin:    00:15:52    And this is happening all over the world. It's happening in middle America where people are leaving their communities they grew up in because they wanna go to the cities to look for work. It's happening in countries throughout Europe, especially Eastern Europe, where people have to leave because the minimum wage is really low. Yeah. There's not enough jobs. And I make a lot of videos about, well, wherever I travel to, and I've been spending a lot of time in Eastern Europe the past couple years, and the people who watch the videos that are from those countries, they're like, oh, I really miss my home country. Like of course if you grew up in a beautiful place around your family members and your friends, of course you would miss it. And they're like, I wanna go back someday. But they're like working in London or they're working in New York or somewhere like that. Or even in like a city like Atlanta driving a taxi or Uber or something. Yeah. Like they're all over the world in all different jobs. And the opportunity to be able to move home and get a livable wage and work from anywhere is really significant. What is the life like here? Like what's the vibe? Like, what is the daily life like for people who live in Arctic Coworking Lodge or even in the neighborhood?  

Rolf:    00:17:06    So I think for most people it's very stress free and it's also really nice and like social. So people, you always have people around you and a lot of exploration, physical activities. So for me, I guess a day in my life would be to wake up around seven or eight, maybe go surfing, sit down here, come, come do some work, and maybe go surfing again. Then go to maybe the climbing gym and then chill out  

Stian:    00:17:35    And you know, eat some good food,  

Rolf:    00:17:37    Eat some good food. Yeah. That's important to eat good  

Stian:    00:17:39    Food. We eat a lot of like dinners with people. I just very seldom eat like, alone eating <laugh>. Yeah. So, yeah, it's not that stressful. And a lot of physical activity. Activity. Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:17:53    Yeah. And everybody eats at home. Like everyone cooks here because, well first there's really no restaurants. <laugh>. <laugh>. True. Well, there are in likeness. There will be though. But I kind of like not having a restaurant because you just don't have to think about it. Like, you know, you're just going to like have your routine and eat at home every day. And then the other day, this girl from Portugal, Adelaide, she's been out foraging for mushrooms and berries and all kinds of stuff. So you had like homemade cream of mushroom pasta, I guess. Yeah. With like vegan cream because you guys have all the oatley products here. Vegan cheese, vegan cream, vegan milk, and yeah. So everyone like kind of contributes to the dinner. Like someone makes a salad, someone buys pasta, somebody forages the mushrooms, and then we all like Yeah.  

Stian:    00:18:50    Eat. And it's cool how it, it's not, it's not really that much hassle for one single person 'cause everybody kind of just does, you know their thing and then, you know, adds their little thing to the, to the meal and normally it gets into a quite exciting meal.  

Kristin:    00:19:06    Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And the other day we had your girlfriend's birthday. Mm. And your friend Susanna made a beautiful cake. Yeah. And another girl made cookies and Yeah, that was really fun. Yeah. Had like a dance party downstairs.  

Stian:    00:19:23    The problem though is when, um, this girl Susie that you're talking about Mm-Hmm. And she's gonna make, uh, because she's opening up that cafe downstairs and, uh, she's gonna be making too much cakes, you know, and they're, they're all vegan cakes and you think they're quite healthy, you know, <laugh> like, all right. She's still okay guys.  

Kristin:    00:19:41    Yeah, yeah. Don't ruin it for us <laugh>.  

Stian:    00:19:45    We'll just have to surf and climb a lot.  

Kristin:    00:19:48    Yeah, totally. So what is that the vision for here? Like, it sounds like you guys are gonna be here for a while and you're opening a cafe and you rented out this building that how many people can stay here at a time?  

Rolf:    00:20:00    12.  

Kristin:    00:20:01    12 people and you renovated it. So what's the kind of master plan brand vision for this place?  

Rolf:    00:20:09    I think it's important to be a little bit flexible and just kind of see what happens. Like for example, this Cafe Cafe idea, like we didn't see that coming, but then someone's like, Hey, I wanna start a cafe. And someone else is like, Hey, I wanna do this course. Or so kind of just changes as it goes in a way. Uh, but at the same time, um, kind of want to evolve it, maybe get it a little bit bigger, but not too big, just perfect size  

Stian:    00:20:37    When I keep it, I really like it the way it's now, it's kind of like personal and everybody kind of knows everybody and it's quite tight. Don't want to get it. Like, yeah, it could be a little bit bigger but not that much bigger. Yeah. I think, and it's nice to have that cafe and some activity, but um,  

Kristin:    00:20:55    So do you mean like adding another building here or adding another location?  

Rolf:    00:20:59    We have another building there.  

Stian:    00:21:01    Oh. That  

Rolf:    00:21:02    We can use, but we haven't made a plan to use it yet. Uhhuh. So right now we're kind of just wanna fill up the 12 spaces that we have. Yeah. And now if we can do that consistently, like even through the winter, then maybe we will expand. But it's not like a must for us. No, no.  

Kristin:    00:21:20    And there's people here year round, right? Like, I met this guy Mike, who is just here. He said he is been here twice this year and now he's back again. <laugh>. So people are here even when it's dark and cold.  

Stian:    00:21:34    We had people here last year from I think, yeah, December, January whole year. But yeah, this year we're gonna close down December and January.  

Rolf:    00:21:43    That's basically because we wanna travel alone. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:21:45    That's basically be the reason <laugh>. So, uh, yeah, we got people here all the way out November and then people start coming in January.  

Rolf:    00:21:55    So you were talking about how peaceful you thought you were here, like, so you can kind of chill out and relax then imagine with your hair in January you have four hours to daylight of daylight and Yeah. You just, then you're super relaxed. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:22:10    Yeah. You need to just relax.  

Rolf:    00:22:11    Yeah. And especially, and I was also thinking like if you have a project that you really need to focus on, like you need to kind of like set yourself in that perfect rhythm, then coming here in the winter time when you don't have any distractions, it's perfect.  

Kristin:    00:22:26    Do you guys need me to health sit for you? Winter. Mm-Hmm. Do you need me to health sit while you're gone? <laugh> 

Stian:    00:22:31    <laugh>. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. Yeah. It's, uh, yeah, if wanna of course, house sit in like December, January, I mean, yeah, no problem.  

Kristin:    00:22:40    I might do that. Well, I was thinking this morning when I was meditating because yesterday I published this blog on medium that was 10 lessons from 800 days of meditation. Yeah. And then I got this idea because Adelaide's the girl with the mushrooms, she went to a vipasana meditation that's a 10 day silent retreat. And I was thinking maybe I should do that for New Year's Eve or like Christmas New Year, that holiday. But also coming somewhere like this would be nice. Like, it would be really nice to start off the year in a really healthy spot. Not like, you know, going to somewhere to party, like go to Las Vegas to party and then you start the year hungover. But like <laugh> starting the year with the Northern lights and quiet calmness and maybe some snowboarding, something like that. Sounds good. Yeah.  

Rolf:    00:23:35    You can go surfing in the winter time too. 

Kristin:    00:23:37    You  can, Oh yeah, I saw in that video. Yeah. Was it in the surfers of Lofoten Video?

Stian:    00:23:42     Yeah.  

Rolf:    00:23:43    So that's kind of like the sea surfing season that I look most forward to. Uh, is the winter. It's really, really cold, but it's also really, really nice.  

Kristin:    00:23:52    How cold does the water get in  

Rolf:    00:23:53    Like four degrees, but the worst isn't the water. Like if it's four degrees in the air and four in the water, it's no big deal. But when it's minus 15 and you have to get up off the water and go change after you're surfing. And that's kind of the worst part about it.  

Kristin:    00:24:08    Yeah. So you change in the parking lot in like minus whatever degrees.  

Rolf:    00:24:13    Yeah, we do it, but we're used to it. <laugh>. Yeah. So, but uh, I guess like you can drive home in your We too and go straight in the shower. That's what  

Kristin:    00:24:21    I would do. Yeah. <laugh> <laugh>. So this week coming up we have some activities. We have the Luton Masters surf contest that I entered without really thinking it through <laugh>.  

Stian:    00:24:34    Oh, have you answered it? Yeah. Yeah. 

Kristin:    00:24:36     Nice, Nice. I answered it before I took a surf session, <laugh> like, like the next two days it was flat and I was like, I can't even catch these waves <laugh>. And then the next day it was like triple overhead <laugh>. I was like, well, and I have never surfed the muse wetsuits before, but yeah, we're going to, we're going to try it out. You guys are doing it right?  

Stian:    00:24:56    Uh, yeah, we're also away.  

Rolf:    00:24:58    I'm, I'm not there, but if I was there, yeah. But I'm away for a weekend.  

Kristin:    00:25:02    So people are gonna come from all over Norway or all over like,  

Rolf:    00:25:06    Like usually there's people coming from Australia, really? Brazil and Yeah. So always like a few people that come just to serve that contest.  

Kristin:    00:25:13    Nice. And then you, you're having like a coffee tasting event here. I'm really selling this place <laugh>. Like you've got buring contests, Australians coming, you've got  

Rolf:    00:25:23    Coffee, there is a lot of stuff happening here. Yeah. Um, so, but this, that's what I'm telling you. Like this coffee tasting thing, this girl Helena who lives here. Oh, okay. And she was like, yeah, I got this coffee that I got from this fancy brewery and, or not brewery, but how do you call it? Yeah. Roastery  

Stian:    00:25:39    Say  

Rolf:    00:25:40    It's like industry. Yeah, yeah. Roast. Yeah. Um, and she got this fancy coffee and it was like, oh, we can get everyone together and everyone can kind of taste the different types of coffee. And it sounded really nice. We were like, yes, let's,  

Stian:    00:25:51    And is just generally really, really stoked about coffee. So Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just like a passionate thing, you know? <laugh>  

Kristin:    00:25:57    Mm-Hmm. I am too. Like we were just talking at lunch that Yeah. I think all of us are a little bit addictive because it's just too easy to have like, it's like Fika here, right? Like Yeah. Fika is like Fika is the Swedish,  

Rolf:    00:26:10    That's the Swedish word. Yeah. Break.  

Kristin:    00:26:12    Yeah. Coffee break. And here it's cozy and cold and we're working a lot. And then after you surf, you want like, some hot tea or some coffee and it's just really easy to drink it <laugh> all day.  

Rolf:    00:26:25    <laugh>. Yeah. But if you're in somewhere warm, like somewhere tropical, you don't really want to drink warm coffee. No. Yeah. Maybe iced coffee, but yeah. You don't drink it as you do here. Like, you always want something warm to drink if you've been outside or Yeah. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:26:39    Coffee is the way to go. Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:26:41    Yeah. I've been in Florida all summer drinking iced coffee and then I get here and, oh, you gotta swim  

Stian:    00:26:47    <laugh>.  

Kristin:    00:26:49    But also let's just give an honorable mention to the water here in general because, so if anybody's into like cold therapy, this is a great place for that. If the water's like so cold and refreshing And I've been taking actually cold showers, not after I surf 'cause I'm already really cold, but in the morning, just like an arctic plunge. Like a polar bear plunge of a shower. Taste  

Rolf:    00:27:13    Tastes really good too. Yeah. Yeah. Tastes amazing. Sweet. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:27:16    And that water actually comes like directly from the, from like the lake up there,  

Kristin:    00:27:21    From like a glacier lake  

Stian:    00:27:23    <laugh>. It's a glacier lake, but it's, it's a, yeah, it's a big lake and the water  

Rolf:    00:27:27    Side never drink from a glacier lake. No, don't do that. This is no  

Stian:    00:27:30    Idea. They say it's, uh, you know, it's not that good for a tummy <laugh>. Oh  

Rolf:    00:27:33    Yeah. 10,000 year old water. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:27:35    To drink  

Kristin:    00:27:37    Well in, um, I, I drank the water when I went hiking in Bergen. That's fine. People said that I could. Okay,  

Stian:    00:27:43    Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah. The water like  

Rolf:    00:27:45    In streams is fine. Just don't drink from a glacier lake that from  

Stian:    00:27:48    The, directly from the lake. Yeah. Where there's a bit of bacteria. Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:27:51    The water from the, the sink tastes like bottled boss water that you would buy at like a club for 10 euro or something. That's  

Rolf:    00:28:01    Probably because it is the same water  

Kristin:    00:28:02    <laugh>, same  

Stian:    00:28:03    Water <laugh>.  

Kristin:    00:28:05    We actually had a guy here from New Zealand who was living in Boston. So where they make the water where they, they don't make the water where they harvest water  

Stian:    00:28:14    <laugh>, they tap it from the, you know, it  

Rolf:    00:28:16    Just branded there or just kind of like a brand name uhhuh to us because it's a really like clean city. Yeah. But the water's not really from there. Oh.  

Kristin:    00:28:24    Oh really? Yeah. Actually learning.

Rolf:    00:28:27     So they have sponsored the lo mustards a couple years ago, didn't they? 

Stian:    00:28:29     Yeah, they did, but I think it's like, uh, the last, I think the, they've sold the whole thing.  

Rolf:    00:28:35    I'm not sure.

Stian:    00:28:35    I think they went, I'm not sure, but I think they might have gone like bankrupt or something and then they've gotten sold out to some guys. 'cause now it's called the Fossil World  

Kristin:    00:28:44    <laugh>. Okay. Just generic kind.  

Stian:    00:28:47    I'm not really sure.  

Kristin:    00:28:49    Well if people wanna come up here and hike and drink good water and drink lots of coffee, then where can they find out more about this place?  

Rolf:    00:29:00    Can check our website. Yeah, we can follow our Instagram maybe.  

Stian:    00:29:04    Yeah. Or uh, yeah, follow follow the Instagram, the article working on Instagram or just, uh, look it up on Google. And there's a lot of info on that website and you know, any questions just like send, send a mail or not too bad answering emails.  

Kristin:    00:29:19    No, you're really good. And shout out to your Instagram. That's so good. It's so pretty. Thanks. So many like good photographers and nice curated stories. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:29:28    But everybody who comes up here, so you taking photos and we're lucky enough to get a few of them. So, uh,  

Rolf:    00:29:34    We're really bad photographers ourselves. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:29:36    We're really bad photographers.  

Rolf:    00:29:37    We just like, we get content from people who comes there, but  

Kristin:    00:29:41    It's like, even if you're a bad photographer, like your pictures just look good here 'cause it's so pretty. Yeah. It's easy.

Stian:    00:29:46    Yeah. No, the problem with us is not that we're just, we just don't take the photos and Yeah. My girlfriend actually hates me for it 'cause I never take any pictures <laugh>, so we don't have any memories. 

Kristin:    00:30:00    Oh.  So  

Rolf:    00:30:00    Discharge.  

Kristin:    00:30:03    My ex-boyfriend hated photos. So like, but hey, then when you break up you're like, oh, there's no pictures.  

Stian:    00:30:08    Yeah. No <laugh>. Yeah. I'm trying to get better at taking photos. I haven't got a diary now.  

Kristin:    00:30:16    A photo diary?

Stian:    00:30:17     No, just like a diary. Uhhuh. Yeah. But um, I haven't written it in it. Oh,  

Kristin:    00:30:22    You should do it.

Stian:    00:30:23   Yeah. I'm, uh, quite excited about that actually. Yeah. Started yesterday.  

Kristin:    00:30:27    I'm really into that like the past year or so. Yeah. Now I feel like if I didn't journal every day, even if it's like five minutes or something Yeah. I would probably go crazy.  

Stian:    00:30:37    Yeah. 'cause it's, but it's like the other day I was surfing and I was like, oh, this will probably not be the surf. I, you know, remember. And then I was like, well I don't even remember like 80% of the surf I have just because we have so many surfs and I, I don't really ride about 'em or, you know, take pictures when before I go or whatever. So maybe like if I write about it, I might remember more of it. Yeah. Or I don't know.  

Kristin:    00:31:00    Yeah. You start to remember like all these different details  

Stian:    00:31:03    Yeah. And all the cool things you do. Yeah. Yeah.  

Rolf:    00:31:06    If you ever wanna write a book  

Stian:    00:31:07    Yeah.  

Rolf:    00:31:07    You, it's super handy to have written around everything that has happened in your life. Yeah.  

Stian:    00:31:11    And I'm really good at writing, so I prob Yeah. I should not write a book.  

Kristin:    00:31:15    <laugh>. I went to a writing course this summer and yeah. The, the guy who was running it and his friend who, who has written a lot of books, he was like, I wish I wrote more down because like I've been to so many countries and I forget a lot of the stories and the things that happen, but that's what pictures and, and stuff are good for. Yeah. Like I have a few photos from Boca del Toro and Panama for example, and I think I was there in like 2006 and now that's a big digital nomad hotspot. And I'm like, wow. I have these like really old photos from like a film camera <laugh> Yeah. Or like a disposable camera or something of me swimming in the water with these girls from Argentina. And I'm like, I never would've remembered that moment. Right. If I didn't have this picture the best like jumping off the dock. Yeah. So yeah. No, I'm gonna take more. Well I took some of you guys today, but,  

Stian:    00:32:12    Um, yeah, I'm excited to see that actually. Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:32:13    Yeah. Well I'm excited to be here for another three weeks. I'm just gonna settle in. Yeah. And yeah, I recommend if you guys are into this sort of thing, to definitely come and you can get a private room or a dorm and the cost varies depending on how long you stay for. But  

Stian:    00:32:31    Yeah, we're usually quite nice with, you know, people stay here for a long time because that makes the community so good. Mm-Hmm. So we try to like, you know, make people stay incentive longer. Yeah.  

Kristin:    00:32:44    Well thanks guys for coming on the podcast. We're gonna do lots more creative stuff while I'm here. And Ciao from Norway.  

Stian:    00:32:53    Ciao ciao. Okay. Goodbye.  

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